Wanting More, Out Loud

Corinne Crabtree's podcast has more than 50 million downloads, and this is one of the most personal conversations Katie has had on air. Together they take apart what “giving yourself grace” actually means for women raised to be everything to everyone — and why it is not an excuse, a shortcut, or letting yourself off the hook.

If your inner voice sounds like “I should have gotten more done today,” this one will land. Katie and Corinne talk about perfectionism, self-compassion that actually works, and why grace may be the thing that makes every hard change easier.

In this conversation:

• What real self-compassion means, beyond surface-level positivity

• Why perfectionism keeps high-achieving women stuck

• How grace speeds up change instead of excusing you from it

There's a name for that quiet sense that something's off even though your life looks successful: the ache for more. Katie and LauraAura talk about how women lose touch with their own desires while managing everyone else's — and the practices that bring them back, from sensory awareness to joy lists.

They also unpack inherited guilt, the brain's pull toward the familiar, and the small gutsy moves that realign a life.

In this conversation:

• Naming the ache — feeling off doesn't mean you're ungrateful

• Joy lists and sensory practices for rediscovering what you want

• Telling your authentic voice apart from internalized expectations

Suzy Rosenstein has spent years talking with women in the middle of their lives, and this conversation goes straight to the heart of Katie's work: what it means to be whole, wise, and worthy — just as you are.

They talk about claiming a heart-led identity, honoring what you actually need (including solitude), and building a legacy that feels authentically yours instead of the one you inherited.

In this conversation:

• Why “whole, wise, and worthy” is a starting point, not a mantra

• How knowing your needs changes how you lead and live

• What legacy looks like when you define it yourself

Kylie Kelly and Katie name something most ambitious women have felt and few have words for: outsourcing your self-trust. You've hired the experts, followed the strategy, done everything right — and you still don't trust yourself with the next decision.

They get into why high-achieving women feel guilt and exhaustion even in success, the difference between hiring from a skill gap versus an insufficiency gap, and why nervous system safety matters as much as strategy.

In this conversation:

• How your brain keeps you “safe” and stuck — and how to override it

• Skill gap vs. insufficiency gap: knowing why you're hiring help

• Rebuilding self-trust so decisions come from alignment, not fear

Nikisha King trained with Katie years ago, and their history makes this conversation unusually honest. It's about the hollow feeling that shows up after you've done everything right — and why it isn't a sign you've done anything wrong.

They dig into the difference between a skill gap and a belief gap, why women quietly sabotage their own next level, and how to stop tying your worth to your business.

In this conversation:

• Where the hollow feeling actually comes from

• Skill gap vs. belief gap — and why it changes everything you invest in

• Rebuilding identity when the ground shifts under you

“I should be grateful… so why do I still feel unfulfilled?” That question is the spine of this conversation. Katie and Dana Grant explore what happens when you've checked every box and still feel restless, and how to release the guilt of wanting more when your life already looks good.

They also get into why the very beliefs that made you successful can be the ones holding you back now.

In this conversation:

• Why restlessness isn't ingratitude

• The beliefs that built your success — and now quietly cap it

• What redefining success on your own terms actually looks like

Tara Brod asks the question so many women are asking right now: what actually brings me joy? Katie talks about why your brain argues against your dreams, the real difference between happiness and joy, and what it takes to end people-pleasing and self-abandonment.

There's also an honest conversation about dating after divorce and what women genuinely need versus what they chase.

In this conversation:

• How to override the brain's case against your dreams

• Happiness vs. joy — and why the difference matters

• Ending self-abandonment without blowing up your life

Katie tells Rachel Perry about her basement stairs moment: standing at the top of the stairs, gathering a smile before walking back into a life that looked perfect and felt hollow. Then they talk about everything midlife women aren't saying out loud — the longing, the gap between how it looks and how it feels — and what becomes possible when the silence breaks.

This is the episode to send a friend who says “I'm fine” and isn't.

In this conversation:

• The “guilt subscription” — and how to cancel it

• Why your brain reads change as danger, and what to do about it

• How Katie rebuilt her identity after losing her dream job

The good-life guilt trap is one of Katie's signature ideas: the way “I have so much to be grateful for” becomes the reason you stay stuck. She and Martine Williams unpack why feeling guilty about wanting more keeps smart women circling — and what stepping out of the trap looks like without abandoning gratitude.

If you've read Katie's essay on this, here's the conversation version.

In this conversation:

• Why gratitude and wanting more can coexist

• How the guilt trap keeps you stuck in a good life

• The first steps out — without blowing anything up

Katie shares the specific, behind-the-scenes decisions where she overrode expert advice and followed a full-body yes — including the ones that redirected her whole business. With Jenna Harrison, she maps the inner dialogue that blocks women's intuitive decision-making, and the one that supports it.

If you've ever known something was right before you could explain why, this is your episode.

In this conversation:

• Telling scarcity and fear apart from true intuition

• Trusting a full-body yes when the stakes feel high

• Alignment and strategy — why it was never either/or

How do you tell the difference between fear talking and intuition talking? Katie and Jessica Smarro — a licensed clinical social worker turned coach — get into letting go, leading yourself, and the discernment that separates a warning from a growth edge.

A natural companion to the self-trust conversations above.

In this conversation:

• Telling fear apart from intuition when they sound alike

• Leading yourself before you lead anyone else

• Letting go as a skill you practice, not a personality trait

A direct, practical conversation about money, mindset, and purpose with one of Investopedia's Top 100 Financial Advisors. Katie and Misty cover why high-achieving women hesitate to invest in themselves, how to hold gratitude and disappointment at the same time, and how to question the inherited rules about what you're allowed to want.

There's practical ground here too: boundaries around your time, and pricing your work at its real value.

In this conversation:

• Therapy vs. coaching — and how each supports growth

• Why successful women hesitate to bet on themselves

• Valuing and pricing your work realistically

Dawn Ledet's entire show is about self-trust, which makes this one a homecoming of sorts. Katie and Dawn take apart the idea that confidence has to come before action — and talk about what it really means to lead from presence, flaws and all.

If you're waiting to feel ready, or collecting one more credential before you begin, this one's for you.

In this conversation:

• Confidence follows imperfect action — not the other way around

• Leading from presence instead of perfection

• Owning your worth while embracing your flaws

Amelia Noël spent a decade in investment banking before becoming an executive coach, and she and Katie talk about confidence where the pressure runs highest. Katie reframes confidence as an emotion paired with the willingness to try — built through internal validation, not the next performance review.

They get practical about self-doubt, over-preparing, and building an identity that doesn't depend on your job title.

In this conversation:

• Confidence as emotion plus willingness — not a prerequisite

• Why internal validation beats external recognition

• Practical ways to battle self-doubt, over-preparation, and fear of failure

Emily Gibson spent a decade at the top of network marketing before training with Katie, and this conversation is about the true cost of “carrying your team.” Katie breaks down the difference between managing people and coaching them — and why emotional regulation is the leadership skill nobody teaches.

For any woman leading a team who is quietly exhausted by it.

In this conversation:

• Why “carry your team” leadership always burns out

• Managing vs. coaching the people you lead

• Scaling without guilt or exhaustion

With Molly Zemek, Katie takes on the Gen X woman's habit of shrinking: doing more, needing less, and calling it virtue. They talk about how perfectionist tendencies get in the way of real fulfillment, and why so many women of this generation feel overwhelmed every single day.

You'll leave knowing how to tell when you're out of alignment with yourself — and simple ways to come back.

In this conversation:

• The quiet ways women diminish themselves without noticing

• Perfectionism vs. fulfillment

• How to recognize misalignment early, and what to do next

What happens when you've learned from excellent teachers, invested in the masterminds, followed the proven strategy — and realize it isn't your path? Katie talks with Amber Lee Smith about rebuilding her identity, her nervous system, and her coaching business on her own terms after a leadership role at The Life Coach School.

A conversation for anyone who feels pressure to replicate someone else's model. Your discernment is the asset.

In this conversation:

• Building on your values instead of someone else's formula

• Developing a coaching style vs. memorizing a methodology

• The “whole, wise, and worthy” foundation for business

Professional organizers spend their days in clients' homes — and in their clients' heads. Katie makes the case to Samantha Brown that coaching skills are what turn a service provider into someone clients never want to lose.

It's a window into what Katie teaches inside the Golden Coaching Certification, applied to a wonderfully practical business.

In this conversation:

• Why every service professional is already halfway to coaching

• What coaching skills change in client relationships

• Where to start if you want to add coaching to your work

Debbie Shadid coaches life coaches on building their businesses, and she and Katie go straight at the thing most new coaches wait for: confidence. Katie's argument is that confidence isn't something you wait for — it's something you build with intention, through practice and honest reflection on your sessions.

She also shares her free Coaching Session Guide, a reflection tool for seeing your growth after every client conversation.

In this conversation:

• Building coaching confidence through deliberate practice

• Moving past self-criticism after sessions

• Collecting evidence of your growth, client by client

Katie used to believe she was missing the entrepreneurial gene. With Jamie Berman, she tells the story of discovering that the “gene” was just a thought — and building a six-figure coaching business her own way.

They talk about releasing beliefs that no longer serve you, daily worthiness practices, and what changes when you pair real coaching skill with a full-body yes.

In this conversation:

• “The entrepreneurial type” is a belief, not a trait

• Operating from abundance instead of scarcity

• Daily practices that keep worthiness in place

“You can't outwork a mindset that's working against you.” With Jackie Murphy, Katie frames coaching as the architecture of your future: it slows your thinking down, introduces curiosity, and expands what feels possible.

They cover self-coaching versus hiring a coach, leading without micromanaging, and why outgrowing what you built is a growth signal — not a failure.

In this conversation:

• The mindset barriers that cap a growing business

• Moving from control to curiosity as a leader

• Beliefs come before confidence — evidence and action build both

Sara Tasker was once in certification with Katie as her instructor — here they swap roles. Sara asks Katie how a beginner's mindset made showing up online feel easy and fun again after going solo, and what it took to switch from employee to entrepreneur.

A generous conversation about values-led business, finding a niche that resonates deeply, and trusting the process while growth unfolds.

In this conversation:

• Recapturing the early magic of showing up online

• Building a values-led business instead of copying the playbook

• The mindset shift from employee to entrepreneur